Full episode
731: What Lies Beneath (2021)
Act Two

Penny for Your Non-Thoughts?

For years, producer Lilly Sullivan has wondered what goes on beneath the surface in the mind of one of her good friends and co-workers, Diane. This week, she tries to get to the bottom of it. (11 minutes)

This was the story director Greta Gerwig gave to Margot Robbie, while Robbie was trying to figure out how to play Barbie. According to Vogue: "Gerwig sent Robbie an episode of This American Life, about a woman who doesn’t introspect. 'You know how you have a voice in your head all the time?' Robbie says. 'This woman, she doesn’t have that voice in her head.'"