November 15, 2019

The Out Crowd

Reports from the frontlines of the Trump administration's "Remain in Mexico" asylum policy. We hear from asylum seekers waiting across the border in Mexico, in a makeshift refugee camp,  and from the officers who sent them there to wait in the first place. 

This episode won the 2020 Pulitzer Prize for audio reporting, the first ever given for audio journalism.

Photo Illustration: Lola Dupre; Photograph: Ira Glass

Note: The internet version of this episode contains un-beeped curse words. BEEPED VERSION.



Host Ira Glass and Aviva DeKornfeld visits refugee camps we don’t call refugee camps—right on our country’s doorstep. (14 minutes)  

Act One

Goodbye, Stranger

Los Angeles Times reporter Molly O’Toole talks to U.S. asylum officers—the people who end up sending migrants back to Mexico. And they don’t feel good about it. This story is a collaboration with the Los Angeles Times. Read Molly's story here. (23 minutes)